New Scaratings

Tonight the stars lined up for the crew at the Blue Goose. I think all of us got our best scores ever tonight. It was an interesting and fun game.

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Tiffany

Occassional Haunt - Jax Tavern, Forest Park, OH

And the answer is......4?? 42....the answer to life, the universe and everything

congratulations on the win. i'd even be happy for you if we weren't going head to head in this six tournament.

Congrats.

We hit the wall on the Sullivan award question, and then got completely derailed

for the third straight week, spotes and I spotted everyone 5K on the final question, knocking 86th st down the rankings ^^

gavv

We also were partially sunk by the final Games question, but we still had an excellent game - 12th, with only four people (six boxes).

-- RWM

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Richard, what was the question?

I don't really remember, as it was a few days ago. Rich might recall; Al and Tom were also there. I believe it listed four people and we had to know which person won the Sullivan Award, but again I don't recall the answer.

As I said, we were 12th on the NTN network. Had you been there, we would probably have finished even higher.

-- RWM

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"...It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED...."

Q was Who won the 2010 Sullivan award?
A was Evan Lysacek. I think one of the distractors was Cam Newton.

Yes, and I fell for it hook, line and sinker.

gotta remember sullivan award is for amateur athlete of the year, and it almost *never* goes to a mens basketball/football player

gavv

If by never, gavv, you mean that 4 college football players, and 4 college basketball players have won the Sullivan Award... 4 Figure skaters, 2 of which have been men, Evan and Dick Buttons, have won the Sullivan... I thought Cam Newton was a justifiable guess... By the way, I counted Charlie Ward as a Basketball player, as that was the career path he chose, even though he won it for basketball and football...

bacho

To the average person, Newton is a valid guess. To one with just decent sports knowledge, Cam is laughable. And I don't mean that in a bad way, everybody has various areas of expertise. Just pointing out that there's an invisible general sports knowledge line in there where Cam goes from very plausible to laughable without having a clue as to the actual answer.

BO

Yet, like movies and TV, the same problem applies to sports questions here. There is that same "invisible line" in my areas of expertise too, but there BT sees fit to throw in normally two or even three but always always at least one distractor(s) that is laughable for everyone. A question about 3rd line hockey centers from the 50s will have five hockey players listed; one about early Motown songwriters will list all 5 options who are at least songwriters. A question about Viennese composers or Greek poets, even on Brainbuster, will include people like Napoleon, William Shakespeare, and, frequently and with decreasing humor, Tiefly or Botfly, leaving the person behind that invisible line a 50-50 guess on getting it right, not a 20% SITD. Sure for the cognoscenti 2 of the hockey players may have been right-wings and one may have died in 1947, and two of the songwriters may have been on other labels or only active in the late Motown era, but it doesn't take a specialist's knowledge to know that Tiefly is not a Greek poet. If all a tone-deaf rap fan has to do to get full bonus on an arts question asking for the composer of the Italian opera L'Inganno Felice is pick the ONE option listed with a vaguely Italian name (an incredibly frequent way to turn a toughie into a gimme for arts questions) rather than choose between Bellini, Rossini, Cherubini and Donizetti, why do the non-gogglewatchers have to memorize the third-string cast lists of every 1950s sitcom to choose between 5 B-list sitcom actors from that era the one who was Mr. Beasley on Blondie?

It seems like the question writers are keenly aware of that invisible line on PC and games, but either ignorant or dismissive of the fact it exists in more academic subjects. It's not just the arts - how many times do Tiefly and other joke distractors show up as scientists or historical figures. Now how many times do they show up as 1970s bands or 50s movie stars?

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I understand and agree Rhino.

Tonight in GD for example, a question asked who won the 1971 Heisman Trophy. I quickly precalled Pat Sullivan and then laughed when he was the only football player listed!

BO

I would assume the question writers are trying to keep it so people have a chance. More people know sports and "PC" than Arts.

At least they don't put the correct answer as two of the options anymore.