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 Post subject: Summer cards
PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:27 am 
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The new Summer Cards are out. I looked at things very briefly, and to be honest, things look very similar to the Spring Card set. I don't remember in detail each card from last season's batch, but I do recognize that Card 1 is identical for the Summer set as it was for the Spring set (April 1st and July 1st both were on a Friday, so that might have helped make things easier for Buzztime). There are a lot of similarities in Card 16 too. Anyone able to confirm similarities, or duplication, in the cards between the Spring and Summer sets?


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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:38 am 
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Cards 1 - 5 are the same. Card 6 has a second game of Six instead of Nth Degree. Card 7 has Showdown replacing one game of BT. Card 8 has Trendalicious replacing Speed. Card 9 has Lexitopia replacing Speed. Card 11 has Countdown replacing Nth Degree. Card 13 has Speed Freaks replacing Speed. A second Six game replaces Speed on card 14. Card 15 drops Six and one game of BT while adding Glory Daze and Brainbuster. Card 16 has SportsIQ replacing Sports Trivia Challenge and a second game of Six instead of Nth Degree.

Time to grab the popcorn for when Bo gets here...only one Sports game out of 16 cards...EGADS! :evil:


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The new Summer Cards are out. I looked at things very briefly, and to be honest, things look very similar to the Spring Card set. I don't remember in detail each card from last season's batch, but I do recognize that Card 1 is identical for the Summer set as it was for the Spring set (April 1st and July 1st both were on a Friday, so that might have helped make things easier for Buzztime). There are a lot of similarities in Card 16 too. Anyone able to confirm similarities, or duplication, in the cards between the Spring and Summer sets?


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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:52 am 
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Did you have notes as to what was on each card from the last set, or are you just that good with memory? Wait....you enjoy trivia, so you must be that good with your memory.

Interesting that they replaced 4 games of Speed, and in one case replaced it with Speed Freaks, a game that most people hate.

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Cards 1 - 5 are the same. Card 6 has a second game of Six instead of Nth Degree. Card 7 has Showdown replacing one game of BT. Card 8 has Trendalicious replacing Speed. Card 9 has Lexitopia replacing Speed. Card 11 has Countdown replacing Nth Degree. Card 13 has Speed Freaks replacing Speed. A second Six game replaces Speed on card 14. Card 15 drops Six and one game of BT while adding Glory Daze and Brainbuster. Card 16 has SportsIQ replacing Sports Trivia Challenge and a second game of Six instead of Nth Degree.

Time to grab the popcorn for when Bo gets here...only one Sports game out of 16 cards...EGADS! :evil:


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The new Summer Cards are out. I looked at things very briefly, and to be honest, things look very similar to the Spring Card set. I don't remember in detail each card from last season's batch, but I do recognize that Card 1 is identical for the Summer set as it was for the Spring set (April 1st and July 1st both were on a Friday, so that might have helped make things easier for Buzztime). There are a lot of similarities in Card 16 too. Anyone able to confirm similarities, or duplication, in the cards between the Spring and Summer sets?


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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:06 am 
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While I do enjoy trivia, I wish my memory was that good :lol: Interesting that they shy away from the Sports games for yet another set of cards (yes I know some won't be shedding a tear). Another thing is RaceDay Trivia conflicts with Tuned In tomorrow night for card 2. Rat bastards! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[quote="MiniYoda"]Did you have notes as to what was on each card from the last set, or are you just that good with memory? Wait....you enjoy trivia, so you must be that good with your memory.

Interesting that they replaced 4 games of Speed, and in one case replaced it with Speed Freaks, a game that most people hate.


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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
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While I do enjoy trivia, I wish my memory was that good :lol: Interesting that they shy away from the Sports games for yet another set of cards (yes I know some won't be shedding a tear). Another thing is RaceDay Trivia conflicts with Tuned In tomorrow night for card 2. Rat bastards! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Damn them Coke Zero bastards! :twisted: :evil: :evil: :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
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It seems strange that they completely wiped out Nth Degree from all of the cards. Are they trying to tell us that the game is going away, or is it just getting disrepected the same as the sports games?


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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
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PHINS wrote:
It seems strange that they completely wiped out Nth Degree from all of the cards. Are they trying to tell us that the game is going away, or is it just getting disrepected the same as the sports games?


Doesn't bother me at all to see Nth Degree wiped out. Wouldn't bother me at all if they do the same with the Lunchtime game.


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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:48 am 
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PHINS wrote:
It seems strange that they completely wiped out Nth Degree from all of the cards. Are they trying to tell us that the game is going away, or is it just getting disrepected the same as the sports games?


Doesn't bother me at all to see Nth Degree wiped out. Wouldn't bother me at all if they do the same with the Lunchtime game.



i agree LT game is a cheating magnet.

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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:53 am 
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I think the cards should be more heavily weighed towards Countdown and Buzztime Trivia. Sure it would be easier for the fanatics to complete the set, but lots of people never get past the first card and with more emphasis on Buzztime and Countdown many of them might be drawn in to participate. Not everybody can go out five nights a week to play, but if you only had to go out to play three or four premium games once or twice a week it could interest a much larger group and they might even start playing an additional night per week regularly.


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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:39 pm 
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Both Nth degree and Glory Daze should be removed from the cards as most West Coasters can't play these games. I realize that a pass can be used, but I'd rather use them on other games. If I play Nth Degree, I can only answer the last 3 questions, because it's the earliest that I can arrive at the site. Glory Daze is completely out of the question as my Showdown site is too far away.

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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:02 pm 
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Jim wrote:
I think the cards should be more heavily weighed towards Countdown and Buzztime Trivia. Sure it would be easier for the fanatics to complete the set, but lots of people never get past the first card and with more emphasis on Buzztime and Countdown many of them might be drawn in to participate. Not everybody can go out five nights a week to play, but if you only had to go out to play three or four premium games once or twice a week it could interest a much larger group and they might even start playing an additional night per week regularly.

Dude, what don't you understand about the fact it's difficult to complete all the cards. It's supposed to be! Otherwise everybody could and would do it. If it's too difficult for you then simply don't do it.

Regardless, you play trivia for one reason only, to win the game. Period. Otherwise why keep score? And if that's the case, who gives a shit about completing silly cards? Those will take care of themselves.

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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
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Dude, what don't you understand about the fact it's difficult to complete all the cards. It's supposed to be! Otherwise everybody could and would do it. If it's too difficult for you then simply don't do it.

Regardless, you play trivia for one reason only, to win the game. Period. Otherwise why keep score? And if that's the case, who gives a shit about completing silly cards? Those will take care of themselves.

BO

I do finish the cards rather quickly, but I enjoy complaining about the inconvenience of doing so. Still is the purpose of the cards to be a difficult challenge for some or to encourage overall increased play for the masses and introduce them to other games thay may like?


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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:23 pm 
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Jim wrote:
-BO- wrote:
Dude, what don't you understand about the fact it's difficult to complete all the cards. It's supposed to be! Otherwise everybody could and would do it. If it's too difficult for you then simply don't do it.

Regardless, you play trivia for one reason only, to win the game. Period. Otherwise why keep score? And if that's the case, who gives a shit about completing silly cards? Those will take care of themselves.

BO

I do finish the cards rather quickly, but I enjoy complaining about the inconvenience of doing so. Still is the purpose of the cards to be a difficult challenge for some or to encourage overall increased play for the masses and introduce them to other games thay may like?

Both. It has something for every level of player. For the more casual player it encourages more play so said player can complete the 6th card or so. For the hard core player it encourages them to go out Tuesday through Saturday for many weeks in a row in order to complete every card. And of course BT doesn't consider the Sunday and Monday premium games important enough to force players to complete games that night.

But again, as I am fond of saying, a player plays every game in order to achieve the highest score they can. Button pushers simply show up to push a few random buttons to complete games and cards.

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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:06 pm 
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An example of the cards getting people out to the bars to play.

http://www.buzztime.com/players/bt_hof_ ... &sid=36876

Or not. What's it going to take for BT to do something about the mobile PM?

Funny thing is, I see games completed (BT or CD for example) by iHack monkeys on their card profile, but their score doesn't show up in their score profile, even with all games/game history selected.

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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:24 pm 
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An example of the cards getting people out to the bars to play.

http://www.buzztime.com/players/bt_hof_ ... &sid=36876

Or not. What's it going to take for BT to do something about the mobile PM?

Funny thing is, I see games completed (BT or CD for example) by iHack monkeys on their card profile, but their score doesn't show up in their score profile, even with all games/game history selected.

BO

Very interesting. I looked at your example and found Cokoo to be on card six. Looking at his gameplay history he has never played SciFi, but it is marked off as a game he has played on his reward cards. A number of games marked off on his cards as played don't show up on his gameplay history.


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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:49 pm 
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Jim wrote:
-BO- wrote:
An example of the cards getting people out to the bars to play.

http://www.buzztime.com/players/bt_hof_ ... &sid=36876

Or not. What's it going to take for BT to do something about the mobile PM?

Funny thing is, I see games completed (BT or CD for example) by iHack monkeys on their card profile, but their score doesn't show up in their score profile, even with all games/game history selected.

BO

Very interesting. I looked at your example and found Cokoo to be on card six. Looking at his gameplay history he has never played SciFi, but it is marked off as a game he has played on his reward cards. A number of games marked off on his cards as played don't show up on his gameplay history.



Which happens when you phone it in and hit buttons without any right questions.


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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
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(Edited by Dante: Googie, please see your PM)

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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
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Which happens when you phone it in and hit buttons without any right questions.


Some could be legit due to using passes, but the point is well made.

I am somewhat (albeit, very lil') surprised that credit is given if you don't get any questions correct. (Back in the day, you didn't get P+ points unless you got at least one question correct. I don't know if that rule still applies today). OTOH, the cards are a participation program and not a scoring program (like P+ is supposed to be)...which could account for the differences in receiving credit.

Yeah, I know, if you guess completely blind, you still have a 20% - 25% chance of getting the question right anyway. So it would take phone users no more than 4-5 questions (on average) to get one question correct instead of answering just one question. But at least it would take a lil' more effort (again, albeit very lil').


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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
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Back in the day, you didn't get P+ points unless you got at least one question correct. I don't know if that rule still applies today


Yeah that's is still the rule. Must answer one or more to complete your game on your card.

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So it would take phone users no more than 4-5 questions (on average) to get one question correct instead of answering just one question. But at least it would take a lil' more effort (again, albeit very lil').


Unless they are at one bar and login to another and the lag between the bars gets the smartphone smarties the avantage.

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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
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poman wrote:
Back in the day, you didn't get P+ points unless you got at least one question correct. I don't know if that rule still applies today


Yeah that's is still the rule. Must answer one or more to complete your game on your card.

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So it would take phone users no more than 4-5 questions (on average) to get one question correct instead of answering just one question. But at least it would take a lil' more effort (again, albeit very lil').


Unless they are at one bar and login to another and the lag between the bars gets the smartphone smarties the avantage.


From my experience all you need to do is answer 1 question. It does not matter if you get it right

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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
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FrankC wrote:
MitchWolf wrote:
poman wrote:
Back in the day, you didn't get P+ points unless you got at least one question correct. I don't know if that rule still applies today


Yeah that's is still the rule. Must answer one or more to complete your game on your card.

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So it would take phone users no more than 4-5 questions (on average) to get one question correct instead of answering just one question. But at least it would take a lil' more effort (again, albeit very lil').


Unless they are at one bar and login to another and the lag between the bars gets the smartphone smarties the avantage.


From my experience all you need to do is answer 1 question. It does not matter if you get it right

That is correct.

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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:11 pm 
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Generally, if I played remotely, and answered one question incorrectly, I would get credit for a game played, but not always. There was one instance, a Saturday game this past winter, where I logged in, answered five questions for zero points and received no credit for the game. Many will say that's how it should be, and I won't disagree. But BT should at least be consistent.

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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
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Generally, if I played remotely, and answered one question incorrectly, I would get credit for a game played, but not always. There was one instance, a Saturday game this past winter, where I logged in, answered five questions for zero points and received no credit for the game. Many will say that's how it should be, and I won't disagree. But BT should at least be consistent.

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I think as far as cards go, the only game where you have to get the answer right or wrong (you can't get a 0) is Speed Freaks.


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 Post subject: Re: Summer cards
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I think as far as cards go, the only game where you have to get the answer right or wrong (you can't get a 0) is Speed Freaks.


I am pretty sure now that the game that was played last winter was Tuned In Trivia. Answered five questions, all incorrectly, and got no credit for it toward the cards, which is not consistent with what normally happens.

As for Speed Freaks, you can answer and get a zero if someone else at that site correctly answers first. But that really wasn't the point of my last post.

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