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Is there a specific mathematical threshold that can be applied to determine if a trivia event becomes a bash? For example, If a bar wins X% of games in a set time period, then it becomes a bash. Of course, you should weight the premium games higher in the formula, say a 10-15% bump for "medium premiums" and 20-25% for the nightly primary game; something like that. You could also weight Countdown above Buzztime 15 min games because of the amount of questions (10 v 15) in the games.

I'm expecting that the BadBart/AOHell gang will answer "100% of all games played between 11:00 am and 3:00 am Eastern" but I don't believe that to be a realistic definition. I'm curious to see what others on this thread think...

I personally am past the point of caring what any of the meet-ups are called. I only say anything for posterity, I told TOLLE this when he visited Vegas. I honestly don't care. I have really thought about attending the one in Cincy in July, but I have other things in the oven right now. I am sure everyone will have a great time, many of the people I would like to meet.

p.s. We also never drank ourselves silly during bashes, oh wait we did. I do find it hilarious when people bring up stories of today, the point my wheelchair towards the door, roll me to the hotel.. etc. That reminds me of Wichita, Eggman, Julia, and myself get there about 6/7ish, we commence on pounding beers, getting jagerbombs from ND, STU, and BIGDOG we are plastered. I get up in the morning to go eat breakfast and knock on EGGMAN's door, he opens up and the room is a mess, the lamp is bent over the spare bed broken. I asked what the hell happened, he replied immediately, "The stupid lamp talked shit to me last night and I had to whoop his ass."

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Pretty close, j/k. I think the formula is simple, members of BADBART or AoHell coined the phrase or term and started the things. Not like the new gatherings, simple as that. Just for an analogy, is the Canadian Football Championship called the Super Bowl (not trying to allude to any abilities of the different parties, just simply an analogy)? I find the WVBTO and Triviapalooza maintain their distinctness in name also.

But, then again, It has never really bothered me anyway, just stirring the pot..

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I prefer not to be called a bash, I try to offer a little more.

Premium and specialty games are the benchmark, better win most, if not all of them and never finish outside the top 3. If you can't even win one premium game, nobody gives a shit about an BT/CD games. Just look at the top players for BT/CD/LTT to see why nobody gives a shit.

I still laugh about the get together where 60 players showed up for 4 days and never cracked the top 5 in premiums.

And that's not taking a shot at anybody with great legitimate averages on those games. We all know who the real players are.

BO

Can't remember all the details (maybe Denton's site would help my memory), but TP won Spotlight in 2009 and if you count the group that moved to CJ's to avoid lag... won Playback as well (if you don't count that, the crew that was left finished 3rd behind CJ's and I think FOOSE and a couple of others in Cali).

2010 TP won the Thursday SIX, finished 2nd to Concert Pub in Spotlight, and, I think, 2nd or 3rd behind Fletcher's in Playback. I know you don't care about BTT/CD/LTT, but we were something like 46 games won, 4 games lost (counting Playback) on Saturday with Danny K's tying us a couple times with perfect bar scores.

Spotlight July 24, 2009

1 Buffalo Wild Wings Huber Heights OH 59,810
2 Mr Bs Restaurant Sports Lounge Los Alamitos CA 58,199

Playback July 25, 2009

1 Cadillac Jacks Kettering OH 69,720
2 Old Town Tavern Goleta CA 60,600
3 Buffalo Wild Wings Huber Heights OH 57,483


July 22, 2010 - SIX

1 Bargos Cincinnati OH 55,039
2 Buffalo Wild Wings Sugar Land TX 53,605
3 The Concert Pub Houston TX 53,562
4 West Park Station Cleveland OH 52,793
5 Bobbleheads Sports Bar and Grill Janesville WI 52,653
6 Mr Bigs Sarasota FL 50,611
7 Side Pockets St Charles Saint Charles MO 49,633
8 Shanannigans Grill and Lounge Wichita KS 49,336
9 Pepper Bottoms Saint Clair Shores MI 48,612
10 Stewarts Brewing Bear DE 48,385

July 23, 2010 - Spotlight

1 The Concert Pub Houston TX 59,476
2 Bargos Cincinnati OH 58,346
3 Old Town Tavern Goleta CA 57,895
4 Mr Bs Restaurant Sports Lounge Los Alamitos CA 56,340
5 The High Run Club Edmonton AB 54,346
6 Aces and Eights Las Vegas NV 54,164
7 Playmakers Sports Bar Cleveland OH 53,882
8 Paddy McGuidos Naples FL 52,548
9 Cave Springs Lanes Saint Peters MO 51,878
10 Buffalo Wild Wings Blacksburg VA 50,758

July 24, 2010 - Playback

1 Fletchers Pub Kalamazoo MI 82,764
2 City Centre Food and Beverage Victoria BC 73,275
3 Bargos Cincinnati OH 72,366
4 Danny Ks Cafe and Billiards Orange CA 71,982
5 Pepper Bottoms Saint Clair Shores MI 66,273
6 Getaway Cafe Pittsburgh PA 62,775
7 Primetime Sports Grill Tampa FL 58,926
8 Hard Times Cafe and Cue Germantown MD 57,213
9 Cadillac Jacks Kettering OH 55,962
10 Indigo Joes Louisville KY 55,938

If I could've convinced BRANDYB, CLAVIN, CRAIG, VISHNU and a couple others to come again it may have been a sweep.

DISCLOSURE: Could not give a toss what any event is called, and care nothing for unprovable claims of superiority with variable and unreproducible circumstances, especially as they never come with suggestions or even willingness to test that claim.

But the thought of why any event, which is essentially a large ad-hoc team consisting of generally capable (for the most part) players, does not always beat other teams which are almost always less in size and with fewer "all-stars", is worth a quick ponder.

One possibility is that bashes are almost always on weekends, for obvious reasions. The longer games on weekends depend on fairly narrow specialized knowledge and are dominated by a fairly small number of regular teams. I'm no Playback follower of course but chances are unless you get whoever is providing, say, Fletcher's and a couple other teams, with most of their answers (be that 1 person or 5), you are going to have a tough chance winning. Six on Thursday helps balance this a bit (and Tolle's last post shows the bash winning that) but of the few I have attended none have their full complement of players or close to it on Thurs.

Another may be the size of events. 60 people cannot possibly play as one team even if they wanted to and had a silent area. All teams face diminishing returns on size - the difference between one good player and the same getting help from another is far greater than the difference added by a third comparable player, and so on to being very little help past, at a guess, 8-10 unless you are adding a true genius or dedicated specialist. I have no clue at what point poor communication and cliquism makes diminishing returns become increasing deficits but I can be pretty sure it happens.

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I have been at two of the WV gatherings and two Triviapaloozas. The reality is that you end up with 5 or more teams when yo you have 50 or 60 players. Especially at night when the TVs, Jukebox, and mouths are going. You are lucky to hear the few people nearby. I personally think these are great events for solo players.

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I like "hootenanny" myself. Never been to one of those

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Why not downgrade Plutonium to a dwarf element?

I plan on wearing a cowboy hat and chaps...

Just back from Mexico, no trivia for 10 days so I check into Scaratings.

This thread is truly hilarious.

Truly.

Glad to see you're back. Dante said you disappeared off the face of the earth.

Hopefully not the Ass-less variety?

I'll staple the hat to his ass if it comes to that

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Very helpful.

Now I know that a Real Bash was a Rotating Exclusive Assembly of Legends of Badbart Admitted SuperTrivia Heroes.

I'm going to check on Ebay for the Action Figures of the era.

One time I actually touched a Real Bash Hero... I haven't washed my hand since.

Remember, they are more valuable if they are still in their original boxes and still have the accessories...like a lemon water finger bowl...or a cape.

I almost attended Clippers; wish I had.

Actually only the first edition figures are worth any money. That was a limited production with the grey playmakers. Hard to find with the antenna still attached.

Yes, you have to have played with an antenna box with a QB1 overlay to be a Real Bash... it is kind of like Kung Fu Grip G.I. Joe.

Why don't we just use the Coca-Cola naming convention from now on? That should make things easier.

The recent events in WV and OH are now called "Bash". But being that there is an uproar from the fans of the original and the claim that the scores aren't up to snuff, we can label the original bashes "Classic Bash".

I just don't know how to handle the situation where Coca-Cola eventually reverted back to the original formula altogether. Maybe if "Bash" gets to be just as good as "Classic Bash" (better, consistent scores in premium games) we can just drop the naming convention and call them all "Bash" again.

To hell with Coca-Cola.

WVBTO is the TAB of get-togethers!

TAB, is that what they call shine these days?

In certain select circles, by those in the know.