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 Post subject: Re: "Fear Strikes Out"...
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:44 am 
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"Fear Strikes Out"... Whom, are we talking about here...?

Billy Piersal. Maybe. I do not know sports.

Jimmy Piersall.

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 Post subject: You nailed it, baby...
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"Fear Strikes Out"... Whom, are we talking about here...?

Billy Piersal. Maybe. I do not know sports.


You nailed it, baby. Great Answer...!

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Piersall wasn't a great slugger at the plate, but he sure could play center field for the Red Sox with the best of them. Possibly, he might have been the best of them. Jimmy could run, and could catch anything he caught up with with. He was damn good in center field in Fenway Park.

Sadly, his antics on the ball field went beyond just being funny. They were cries for help. Piersall overcame the demons that were leading him into insanity, and took his life back from those demons. This is a man, who everyone should respect, and feel very proud of for what he was able to accomplish. Not talking about on the baseball field here. I'm talking about in his life.

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 Post subject: ZOG, you are right also...
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"Fear Strikes Out"... Whom, are we talking about here...?

Billy Piersal. Maybe. I do not know sports.

Jimmy Piersall.


ZOG, you are right also...

Jimmy Piersall was a person, who was a damn good baseball player, but more importantly, a person, who overcame the demons that were tearing him apart inside, to return to sanity. I believe Jimmy is dead now, but his story will live forever...

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Here's a link to part of the movie, "Fear Strikes Out". Some of us have been there, and some of us may have been close, or maybe we have family or friends, who have been there. In any event, this is a story that will give people hope...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DESm_jKmWEs

Here's a link to Jimmy Piersall on TV's "What's My Line?" program from the 1950's, I think it's worth watching:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G61H3lJKi80

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 Post subject: Re: "Fear Strikes Out"...
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"Fear Strikes Out"... Whom, are we talking about here...?

Billy Piersal. Maybe. I do not know sports.

Jimmy Piersall.


I have know idea why I typed "Billy" instead of "Jimmy". After all he in is later years was an announcer for the Chicago White Sox. I loved to listen to him. He was the only reason I ever paid any attention to the Sox. He was crazy, in a good way.

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 Post subject: Re: THE BASEBALL THREAD.
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Cloudy,

Based on his Wikipedia entry, Jimmy Piersall is still alive; he is currently 81.

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 Post subject: Let's have a Jimmy Piersall day...
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Based on his Wikipedia entry, Jimmy Piersall is still alive; he is currently 81.

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Let's have a Jimmy Piersall day here on the "ScaRatings". Jimmy was born on November 14, 1929.

OKAY, THE RESULTS ARE IN. THE VOTE WAS UNANIMOUS. FROM NOW ON NOVEMBER 14TH WILL BE JIMMY PIERSALL DAY ON THE "SCARATINGS".

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 Post subject: Re: Yawkey is dead...
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:22 pm 
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Yawkey died in 1976. I believe we have alread discussed his racism, that hurt the Red Sox, as when Willie Mays and Jackie Robinson tried out for the team, but were not signed. I think it is a mistake to judge people, who lived in a different time by today's enlightenment. It certainly appears that the Red Sox have put Yawkey behind them, and have moved on. It's time for you to put Yawkey behind you, and move on also. :D

Sorry, CLOUDY, but as long as Nash & Zullo continue to keep that reprehensible racist in their Hall Of Shame, then I will continue to dislike the eternally damnable, evil empire 1b FBOSOX until the time I meet my maker.

Then again, I find myself agreeing with the opinion in this article; another trial of FCLMNS is a waste:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AoOd2F0vpkIg9v9NyFXfbAARvLYF?slug=lc-carpenter_clemens_new_trial_090211

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 Post subject: I have had 3 replies to you post disappear...
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Yawkey died in 1976. I believe we have alread discussed his racism, that hurt the Red Sox, as when Willie Mays and Jackie Robinson tried out for the team, but were not signed. I think it is a mistake to judge people, who lived in a different time by today's enlightenment. It certainly appears that the Red Sox have put Yawkey behind them, and have moved on. It's time for you to put Yawkey behind you, and move on also. :D



Sorry, CLOUDY, but as long as Nash & Zullo continue to keep that reprehensible racist in their Hall Of Shame, then I will continue to dislike the eternally damnable, evil empire 1b FBOSOX until the time I meet my maker.

Then again, I find myself agreeing with the opinion in this article; another trial of FCLMNS is a waste:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AoOd2F0vpkIg9v9NyFXfbAARvLYF?slug=lc-carpenter_clemens_new_trial_090211


I have had 3 replies to your post disappear tonight. I am REALLY PISSED...!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: This bullshit doesn't happen anywhere else. The "ScaRatings" wipes me out, when I am doing something as simple as adding a comma to a sentence. My first reply to your post disappeared with a message that I had to log on again. Shit, I know God damn well that I never logged off. I have absolutely NO idea why my second reply to your post disappeared. The third time my reply was gone after I tried to add a second :evil: to the end of a sentence. The "ScaRatings" usually gets me while I am trying to edit a post that I have not yet submitted.

LilJol, It's getting too late for me to again try to recreate my reply to your post tonight. I think you deserve a reply, and perhaps the "ScaRatings" will allow me to post it tomorrow. That is, if I don't put my fist through the monitor and wind up in the hospital tomorrow, while they try to sew my fingers back on. :lol:

p.s. I will say this. I think I understood the first part of your post, which I hope to reply to. However, I'm kind of confused how the Roger Clemens thing fits into "the eternally damnable, evil empire 1b FBOSOX" rampage you seem to be on. Yeah, Roger the Rocket did once play for the Red Sox a long time ago, but how in Heaven can you connect him to Tom Yawkey?

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 Post subject: Re: I have had 3 replies to you post disappear...
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:15 am 
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p.s. I will say this. I think I understood the first part of your post, which I hope to reply to. However, I'm kind of confused how the Roger Clemens thing fits into "the eternally damnable, evil empire 1b FBOSOX" rampage you seem to be on. Yeah, Roger the Rocket did once play for the Red Sox a long time ago, but how in Heaven can you connect him to Tom Yawkey?

Hells bells, CLOUDY. There was no attempt to link FCLMNS to Yawkey. FCLMNS, of course, was one of many players for...

THE ETERNALLY DAMNABLE, EVIL EMPIRE 1B FBOSOX!!
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 Post subject: Re: Yawkey is dead...
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:05 pm 
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liljol wrote:
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Yawkey died in 1976. I believe we have alread discussed his racism, that hurt the Red Sox, as when Willie Mays and Jackie Robinson tried out for the team, but were not signed. I think it is a mistake to judge people, who lived in a different time by today's enlightenment. It certainly appears that the Red Sox have put Yawkey behind them, and have moved on. It's time for you to put Yawkey behind you, and move on also. :D

Sorry, CLOUDY, but as long as Nash & Zullo continue to keep that reprehensible racist in their Hall Of Shame, then I will continue to dislike the eternally damnable, evil empire 1b FBOSOX until the time I meet my maker.

Then again, I find myself agreeing with the opinion in this article; another trial of FCLMNS is a waste:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AoOd2F0vpkIg9v9NyFXfbAARvLYF?slug=lc-carpenter_clemens_new_trial_090211


That seems sensible. Keep up the good fight, LJ.
I can only imagine how difficult it must be for you to make it through every day without using any $1 bills or quarters, what with Washington being a slave owner and all... :P :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Yawkey is dead...
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liljol wrote:
Cloudy wrote:
Yawkey died in 1976. I believe we have alread discussed his racism, that hurt the Red Sox, as when Willie Mays and Jackie Robinson tried out for the team, but were not signed. I think it is a mistake to judge people, who lived in a different time by today's enlightenment. It certainly appears that the Red Sox have put Yawkey behind them, and have moved on. It's time for you to put Yawkey behind you, and move on also. :D

Sorry, CLOUDY, but as long as Nash & Zullo continue to keep that reprehensible racist in their Hall Of Shame, then I will continue to dislike the eternally damnable, evil empire 1b FBOSOX until the time I meet my maker.

Then again, I find myself agreeing with the opinion in this article; another trial of FCLMNS is a waste:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AoOd2F0vpkIg9v9NyFXfbAARvLYF?slug=lc-carpenter_clemens_new_trial_090211


That seems sensible. Keep up the good fight, LJ.
I can only imagine how difficult it must be for you to make it through every day without using any $1 bills or quarters, what with Washington being a slave owner and all... :P :mrgreen:

Everythng's relative. Yawkey being a racist in his time is somewhat more offensive than Washington in his. A lot more offensive, actually. Because of how ignorantly backward he was compared to his times. Kind of like Marion, Indiana, oh, say, 1930 or so.


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 Post subject: Good points, Mr. Ale...l
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Everythng's relative. Yawkey being a racist in his time is somewhat more offensive than Washington in his. A lot more offensive, actually. Because of how ignorantly backward he was compared to his times. Kind of like Marion, Indiana, oh, say, 1930 or so.


Good points, Mr. Ale.

There is no question that our country was once very racist. (Actually, it was not just America. I think that much of the rest of the world can also share the shame.) Today we can find fault with many important Americans for racism from George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, et cetera, et cetera, through Woodrow Wilson, FDR, and more. However, to judge them from our enlightened perception of today, and not consider the times they lived in, isn't right. The fact is that the United States of America has gone a long way to atone for its racial sins of the past. I think we should be proud of what our country has done to try to eliminate racism in our country.

The past is gone, and there is nothing anyone can do to change it. We can only learn from it, and as I see it our country has.

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 Post subject: To live in the past with anger...
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I can only imagine how difficult it must be for you to make it through every day without using any $1 bills or quarters, what with Washington being a slave owner and all... :P :mrgreen:


SPOTES, excellent, succinct post. I doubt LilJol will reply to it, but let's wait and see...

To live in the past with anger, and not realize that the present has corrected the past, giving us a totally new future, is stubborn foolishness.

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 Post subject: Let's get back to baseball...
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Let's get back to baseball...

I won't excuse myself from helping this baseball thread drift off topic, but I've had a lot of help. I'm done with George Washington, the racist here. George Washington had nothing to do with baseball. So let's move on, and get back to baseball. :D

If anyone wants to continue this debate, please start a new thread.

Damn, the American League East is up for grabs. Why the Hell are talking about people and things that have nothing to do with baseball that happened before most of us were born?

p.s. When I played Little League, I once struck out 13 batters in a six inning game. Can anyone top that...? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Let's get back to baseball...
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p.s. When I played Little League, I once struck out 13 batters in a six inning game. Can anyone top that...? :lol:

Yep, my older brother threw a no-hitter for the Prescott All Stars. I know there is a press clipping out there somewhere, I just can't find it at this time.

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 Post subject: Not bad, but how many did he strike out...?
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p.s. When I played Little League, I once struck out 13 batters in a six inning game. Can anyone top that...? :lol:

Yep, my older brother threw a no-hitter for the Prescott All Stars. I know there is a press clipping out there somewhere, I just can't find it at this time.


Not bad, but how many did he strike out in that no-hit game...?

p.s. My baseball career ended after Little League. It was a short lived bit of personal baseball glory. It was probably a good thing that my baseball skills weren't good enough to go beyond Little League, because it gave me nowhere to go, but to track, where I did pretty well. :D

p.p.s. I don't want to send this thread off onto a track tangent. Just needed to put that in for myself... :D

p.p.p.s. I never pitched a no-hit game. Your brother's accomplishment is something that very few have ever done. That is something to be very proud of. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Good points, Mr. Ale...l
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There is no question that our country was once very racist. (Actually, it was not just America. I think that much of the rest of the world can also share the shame.)


The majority of the world is still very racist. They, and we, just change which races we actively want to hate every Chicago White Sox World Series win.


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 Post subject: Re: THE BASEBALL THREAD.
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I went to my first Astros game of the year and saw them get swept vs the Brewers. They are five losses away from the team record. They are going to be bad for some time.


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 Post subject: Gotta ask you this...
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I went to my first Astros game of the year and saw them get swept vs the Brewers. They are five losses away from the team record. They are going to be bad for some time.


Gotta ask you this... Your handle, "NOMAR" is the name of a one time very good Boston Red Sox player, Nomar Garciaparra. Are you a fan of his? Better yet, are you a Red Sox fan...?

p.s. Here's a little baseball trivia question for you, or anyone else, who wants to jump in. Who is Nomar Garciaparra named after?

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p.s. My answer may be wrong, because I haven't looked for confirmation of the story I heard.

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 Post subject: Re: THE BASEBALL THREAD.
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He is named after his father who name is Ramon, but it is spelled backwards. Ramon is my first name too,and my uncle thought that name was cool so he started calling me Nomar. Also I am a Red Sox fan.


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 Post subject: Re: Yawkey is dead...
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mr_ale wrote:
Everythng's relative. Yawkey being a racist in his time is somewhat more offensive than Washington in his. A lot more offensive, actually. Because of how ignorantly backward he was compared to his times. Kind of like Marion, Indiana, oh, say, 1930 or so.


It was a joke, Ale.
Can't a guy just give Liljol some crap in peace? :P
Besides, given LA's sterling history in race relations, how could I possibly retort...?
Mwah! Ha! Ha! :mrgreen:

Here's a segue:
Who was the first black player in the major leagues?
And, if you don't know it, don't Google it people. Have some pride for goodness sake. :D


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Who was the first black player in major league?

Pedro Cerrano?

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 Post subject: Re: Yawkey is dead...
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Who was the first black player in major league?

Pedro Cerrano?

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Up yours, Jobu.


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 Post subject: Re: THE BASEBALL THREAD.
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Hey BO,
The thought occurs to me that one of us should probably explain to Cloudy that we're quoting lines from a movie before he tries to separate us... :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Pedro Cerrano...
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Who was the first black player in major league?

Pedro Cerrano?

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Hmm, I learn something new from you guys all of the time.

I think I've got Pedro Cerrano's baseball card somewhere. Give me a minute to go down to the basement, and see if I can find it.

Is this it...?


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p.s. Pretty tricky, I'm kinda thinking that Pedro might have played his entire baseball career on the big screen. :lol:

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